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"Recently it has been suggested t me that the books give instances of slaves owning property. More specifically of Masters allowing their slaves to own other slaves sometimes to be called stable girls. Is this accurate? If so I really need the referenc

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Hello,

The idea that slaves can own slaves is utterly ridiculous. There is nothing within the series that would even imply this. A slave owns nothing, not even her name.

While there are occasions when one girl is placed in charge of other girls, referred to as First Girl, all things are subject, ultimately, to the total authority of the master.

No one will be able to prove from the source text anything any different.

Fogaban



"I am a slave girl," she said. "I am the rightful property of free men, not slaves."
Blood Brothers of Gor     Book 18     Page 79

"Surely you are aware," said Saphrar, "that a slave cannot own property - any more than a kaiila, a tharlarion or sleen."
"I am the richest woman in Turia!" she cried.
Saphrar reclined a bit more on his cushions. His little round pinkish face shone. He pursed his lips and then smiled. He poked his head forward and said, very quickly, "You are a slave!" He then giggled.
Aphris of Turia threw back her head and screamed.
"You do not even have a name," hissed the little merchant.
It was true. Kamchak would undoubtedly continue to call her Aphris, but it would be now his name for her and not her own. A slave, not being a person in the eyes of Gorean law, cannot possess a name in his own right, any more than an animal. Indeed, in the eyes of Gorean law, unfortunately, slaves are animals, utterly and unqualifiedly at the disposition of their masters, to do with as he pleases.
Nomads of Gor     Book 4     Page 132

"I am of high caste, and am rich!" she said.
"Once perhaps," said Boots, "but neither is true any longer. With your branding you became only an animal, a property. With the iron's first touch you ceased to be a legal person. You are now casteless. You now own nothing. Rather it is now you yourself, slave, who are subject to being owned, as much as any other object or property."
Players of Gor     Book 20     Page 199


"Please no, Mistress," begged Tala.
"I am not "mistress,"" said Phoebe. "I, too, am only a slave."
It was natural enough, in the circumstances, for Tafa to have addressed Phoebe as "Mistress." As Tafa was currently subject to us, and Phoebe was with us, this put Phoebe in a position of de facto priority to her. For example, in a group of female slaves, for example, in a pleasure gardens, a fortress or a tavern, there will usually be a girl appointed First Girl. Indeed, if there is a large number of slaves, there are sometimes hierarchies of "first girls," lower-level first girls reporting to higher-level first girls, and so on. The lower-level slaves will commonly address their first girl as "Mistress." Thus, in some situations, the same girl may be first girl to certain girls and be subordinated herself to another, on a higher level, whom she will address as "Mistress." Sometimes a hierarchy is formed in which girls are ranked in such a manner that each must address the girls above her as "Mistress." More commonly, it is only the lowest slave, usually the newest slave, who must do this with all the others, whereas the others will address only their first girl as "Mistress," and, of course, any free woman whom they might, to their risk, or peril, encounter. Technically the lowest of free women, of the lowest caste, is immeasurably above even the highest of slaves, even the preferred slave of a Ubar. Sometimes a Ubar will even have his preferred slave serve in a low-caste hovel one day a year, under the command, and switch, of a low-caste free woman, performing her labors, and such, that she may be reminded that she is truly, when all is said and done, only a slave, as much as the lowest of the kettle-and-mat girls in the most wretched of hovels, crowded about the walls of a small city.
"The decision as to the discipline of slave will be made by the masters," I reminded Phoebe.
"Yes, Master," said Phoebe. "Forgive me, Master."
Magicians of Gor     Book 25     Pages 123 - 124

When more than one slave girl stands in a relationship of slave girls, as when they serve in the same shop or house, or adorn the same rich man's pleasure gardens, it is common for the master, or masters, to appoint a "first girl." Her authority is then to the other girls as is that of the master. This tends to reduce squabbling. The first girl is usually, though not always, the favorite of the master. There is usually much competition to be first girl. First girls can be cruel and petty but commonly, they attempt to govern with intelligence and justice. They know that another girl, at the master's whim, may become first girl, and that they themselves may then be under her almost absolute power.
Explorers of Gor     Book 13     Page 77

The suspension of brush-and-comb privileges is also used, upon occasion, by the first girls as a disciplinary measure, within the coffle. Other disciplinary measures practiced among girls themselves involve such things as bonds, the control of rations and switchings. Girls, thus, under the control of first girls, reporting to the masters, commonly keep a good order among themselves. All, of course, including the first girls, are in all things subject, ultimately, to the total authority of the master.
Savages of Gor     Book 17     Page 231




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