 Quotes  Master / slave Masters Slaves General |
 DisciplineThese are quotes from the Books I have found to be of interest on the topic of Discipline. Perhaps you will find them of interest too. I make no pronouncements on these matters, but report them as I find them. Arrive at your own conclusions. I wish you well, Fogaban "Perhaps it should only be added that the Gorean Master, though strict, is seldom cruel. The girl knows, if she pleases him, her lot will be an easy one. She will almost never encountered sadism or wanton cruelty, for the psychological environment that tends to breed these diseases is largely absent from Gor. This does not mean that she will not expect to be beaten if she disobeys, or fails to please her Master." Outlaw of Gor Book 2 Page 53 How incredibly, and yet rationally and justifiably, I felt at his mercy. He was my master. He owned me. He could do whatever he wanted with me. He could trade me or sell me, or even slay me upon a whim, should he wish. I was absolutely his, his girl. Slave Girl of Gor Book 11 Page 108 "The other girl," she whispered, "is she unpleasant or difficult to get on with?" "Perhaps," I said. "Do you find her at times a bother, or troublesome?" "Yes," I said. "May I make a suggestion?" she asked. "Yes," I said. "Buy a whip," she said. Rouge of Gor Book 15 Page 113 What woman could respect a man who is not strong enough to put her under the whip? Guardsman of Gor Book 16 Page 102 "Any Free Man may discipline an insolent or errant slave," I said, "even one who is the least bit displeasing, even one he might merely feel like disciplining. If she is killed, or injured, he need only pay compensation to her Master, and that only if the Master can be located within a specific amount of time and requests such compensation." In virtue of such customs and statutes the perfect discipline under which Gorean slaves are kept is maintained and guaranteed even when they are not within the direct purview of their Masters or their appointed agents. Players of Gor Book 20 Page 235 One of the slave girls, one kneeling a few feet away, before us and to our right, at a table, one of those who was naked, save for her collar, laughed. Then she turned white with fear. She had laughed at a free woman. Samos turned to a guard and pointed at the offending slave. "Fifteen lashes," he said. The girl shook her head in misery. She whimpered with terror. These would be lashes, she knew, with a Gorean slave whip. Players of Gor Book 20 Page 11 It is one thing to be subject to the whip, and to know that that subjection is quite real, that the master can, and will, whip you, and well, if you are not pleasing, and something else to be actually whipped. Mercenaries of Gor Book 21 Page 420 I generally feel that pain, at least generally, should not be inflicted on a slave unless it is meaningful. Renegades of Gor Book 23 Page 326 The major point of the restraint is to restrain not hurt. Indeed, pain can interfere with many of the diverse subsidiary values of restraints, physical and psychological. It can be distractive. Pain is a bit like the whip. The slave is subject to the whip, and truly subject to it, but this does not mean that she is necessarily whipped; that she could be whipped, and will be whipped, if she is not pleasing, is what is important, not that she need be whipped. Why should one beat a pleasing slave? Renegades of Gor Book 23 Page 327 The whip on Gor, incidentally, though it is much in evidence, is seldom used. That it will be used, and promptly, if the occasion arises, is perhaps, paradoxically perhaps, why it seldom needs to be used. Most girls avoid feeling it, at least generally, by striving to be excellent slaves. To be sure, every female slave will have felt it, upon occasion. It is then common that they try to make certain that these occasions are quite infrequent. To be sure, some women do not fully understand they are owned, until they are whipped. Vagabonds of Gor Book 24 Page 21 Excellent slaves are seldom beaten, for there is little, if any, reason to do so. To be sure, such a girl, particularly a love slave, occasionally desires to feel the stroke of the lash, wanting to feel pain at the hands of a beloved master, wanting to be whipped by him because she loves him, in this way symbolizing to herself her relationship to him, that of slave to master, her acceptance of that relationship, and her rejoicing in it. Magicians of Gor Book 25 Page 124 "You cannot punish me!" she cried. "You are not my Masters!" "Any Free Person can punish an errant slave girl," I said. "Surely you do not think that her behavior fails to be subject to supervision and correction as soon as she is out of her Master's sight?" Magician of Gor Book 25 Page 225 The discipline of a slave may be attended to by any Free Person, otherwise she might do much what she wished, provided only her Master did not learn of it. The legal principle is clear, and has been upheld in several courts, in several cities, including Ar. Magician of Gor Book 25 Page 122 But, as stated, Ellen was almost never beaten, save for an occasional stroke of the switch. The reason for this, of course, was not that her master was weak, but that she had become an excellent slave, and thus there was little, if any, reason to beat her. This is common on Gor. Gratuitous cruelty is far more common on Earth, I fear, than on Gor. The value of the whip, you see, is not so much in its being used, as in the slave's knowledge that it can be used and, under certain circumstances, will be used. Occasionally, of course, the slave may be tied and whipped that she may the better know herself, that she may be reminded of what she is, that she is a slave. Prize of Gor Book 27 Page 699 We make excellent slaves, perhaps in part, at least at the beginning, because we know we will be whipped if we are not. And to be sure, even later, if we are not fully pleasing, we know we will be whipped. We are, after all, slaves. But do not misunderstand such things. Gorean men, while demanding and severe, are seldom cruel. It is not in their nature. That sort of thing, I think, is more common on Earth, where, unfortunately, I fear that some males, hopefully few, see women less as wondrous and delicious properties, less as fascinating, attractive, beautiful, desirable domestic animals, less as possessions to be sought, owned, relished, celebrated, treasured, and mastered, than as something alien to be hurt, oddly enough, incomprehensibly, for one's pleasure. Whatever this may be, or its explanation, it is not Gorean. The Gorean master seldom, if ever, inflicts gratuitous pain. What would be the point of it? Similarly he would not abuse children, torture small animals, or such. Goreans would simply not understand such things. If they did understand them, they would doubtless account them offenses against honor. To be sure, the slave may be whipped for any reason, or for no reason. This comprehension helps her understand that she is a slave. It adds a flavor to her existence. Prize of Gor Book 27 Pages 713 - 714 Most slaves are zealous to please their masters. Why then should such a slave suffer for the fault of another? Would this not be likely to dismay, bewilder, and confuse a slave? Similarly, in my view, discipline is not to be arbitrary. Her universe is to be a stable, secure universe, with its well-established borders, expectations, habits, and such. In this respect, her universe is likely to be more secure, livable, and rewarding than that of the free woman, so far above her. Most slaves begin by fearing the master, and strive to be pleasing, fearing not to please him. But then, commonly, as she learns her collar, and realizes it is on her, and locked, she wishes to please him, and fully, with all her heart. Certainly it is pleasant to have a loving slave at one's feet. Is not love the strongest of her chains? To be sure, one must guard against caring for a mere slave. Occasionally she might be whipped, if it seems appropriate, to remind her that she is a slave, and only a slave. This, too, as she loves her bondage, and would not exchange its freedom for the narrowness and imprisonment of the free woman, can be rewarding and reassuring to her, even in its tears. How better can she be informed that she is a slave, than to know herself subject to the whip of her master? Rebels of Gor Book 33 Page 61 "You are not my master," she said. "You cannot whip me!" "Are you sure of that?" I asked. "No," she said. She then looked at me uncertainly. Perhaps for the first time she sensed she was looking into the eyes of a man who could bring the whip to her back and legs. I saw she was trying to deal with this thought. Too, I saw a flicker in her eyes, perhaps of fear, but, too, perhaps of something else, as well. She had never before been, I suspected, subject to a male. Swordsmen of Gor Book 29 Page 60 The slave, it might be noted, is seldom, if ever, treated with gratuitous or wanton cruelty. She is subject to that, but what would be the point of it? To a Gorean such things would be incomprehensible, or absurd. What is important is the mastery, and firmness, to be sure a mastery and a firmness which is uncompromising and exacting, categorically and absolutely so, but also one which is commonly taken for granted, by both the master and the slave. Swordsmen of Gor Book 29 Page 106 The slave responds well to restraints, and the uncompromising dominance which she yearns for with all her heart. Obviously she does not wish to be hurt, nor, generally, should she be hurt, unless she has been in some respect displeasing, and punishment is in order, but she does want to know herself slave, owned, and mastered. Accordingly she loves to be in the master's power, whether merely heeding his word, obeying, or realizing, in frustration, that no matter how much she might wish to do so, she is not permitted to speak, or writhing in his bonds, helplessly exposed to his mercy, and caresses, should he choose to bestow them upon her, such things. She responds well to blindfolds, hoods, gags, ropes, straps, collars, slave bracelets, chains, and such. When I tied her hands behind her she put back her head in the hood, lovingly, and pressed against me. Swordsmen of Gor Book 29 Pages 143 - 144 Whereas a slave may be degraded or humiliated, or beaten, or chained, or such, at the merest caprice of the master, it is seldom done. There would be no point to it, particularly in the case of a girl who is trying to please. The slave, like any animal, is to be governed with understanding, sympathy, and intelligence. Too, the Gorean master is usually quite fond of his slave, though I suppose few would be likely to admit this. But, fond of her or not, discipline is not to be compromised. Discipline must be firm, strict, and unyielding. She is, after all, a slave. She is to be held under an exact, uncompromised, unswerving discipline. She expects that, and is not disappointed. Swordsmen of Gor Book 29 Pages 177 - 178 There are many forms of discipline, of course. The switch and whip are but two. Short rations and close chains are others. Nudity in the streets is also unpleasant. Being denied an upright posture or speech are others. One of the most effective disciplines has to do with sex. Once her slave fires have been ignited, and, periodically, rage, in all their suffusive global might, she finds herself, perhaps at first to her terror, dismay, and misery, their helpless, desperate captive and victim. She then has, in her collar, a need for sex which is not even conceivable, save at the terrifying edges of her consciousness, to the free woman. Indeed, the life of a slave female is a life profoundly imbued with sex, a life of profound and radical sexuality. She joyfully abandons herself to what she now is, a female and a slave. In the collar she finds her joy, her freedom, her meaningfulness, and her identity. She has come home to what she is, radically, anciently, biologically, profoundly, a woman, a slave. It is then obvious what might be the nature of a most effective discipline. One spurns her from one's feet. She returns, squirming on her belly, pressing her lips to one's feet and ankle, whimpering, begging to be touched. She is a slave. Rebels of Gor Book 33 Pages 61 - 62 "Do you not object to the fellow switching Nezumi?" I asked. "No," said Tajima. "It will be good for her, and we must remember that we are guests here." "We would not wish to be discourteous," I said. Rebels of Gor Book 33 Page 320 "Must a command be repeated?" said Pertinax. The repetition of a command is commonly a cause for discipline, unless there is a serious reason to suppose that the command has not been heard, or has not been understood. In this case, it seemed clear the command would have been both heard and understood. Failure on the part of a female slave not to respond instantly and unquestioningly to a command can mean the whip for her. Rebels of Gor Book 33 Page 407 "You struck me," she said, reproachfully. "No! Do not turn away!" He turned back. I feared he might be angry. The slave is not to be struck in anger. She is to be struck, if she is to be struck, to discipline her, to improve her. She is to be trained as the animal she is, and in her training, the whip is occasionally useful. Rebels of Gor Book 33 Pages 414 - 415 Gorean masters, on the whole, incidentally, seldom apply the lash, even to their slaves. There is seldom any point in doing so. The slave attempts to be pleasing, honestly and fervently, to the best of her ability. It would be absurd then to do her hurt. Plunder of Gor Book 34 Page 465 I had never been whipped, though my master Kurik of Victoria, never hesitated to use the switch on me when I had been stupid, slow to respond, or in any other way the least bit displeasing. I well knew myself under discipline. I would have it no other way. A woman, I was thrilled to be subject to a man's discipline. I wished, desperately to be pleasing to my master. Plunder of Gor Book 34 Pages 331 - 332 The repetition of a command can be a cause for discipline. Quarry of Gor Book 35 Page 30 We were, of course, Gorean slaves, and were held under the perfection of Gorean discipline. But that would be much the same in any Gorean city. Gor is Gor, and a slave is a slave. The Gorean master is strict, and often demanding and severe, but is seldom cruel. We know we will be whipped if we are not pleasing, but we strive to be pleasing, and, accordingly, are seldom, if ever, whipped. Quarry of Gor Book 35 Pages 116 - 17 The repetition of a command is often cause for discipline. Quarry of Gor Book 35 Page 156 The commands of a master are to be obeyed immediately and unquestioningly. Hesitation or reluctance can be a cause for discipline. Quarry of Gor Book 35 Page 168 The slave, being a slave, and not a free woman, is subject to the whip. The average slave is seldom, if ever, whipped, for she is commonly zealous to be found pleasing, knowing well she will be whipped, if she is not. Quarry of Gor Book 35 Page 426 Dalliance on the part of a slave can be cause for discipline. A slave is to respond to a command immediately and unquestioningly. |       
| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
